The information they collect is used for long-term weather forecasting and climate change studies. It's nothing new - has been going on for as long as this earth has existed - and will continue to go up and down regardless of what we choose to do. Are they warming at all? Venus will help us understand what happens when the greenhouse effect is really extreme. Now scientists are telling us that Mars is experiencing its own planetary warming: Martian warming. But you think you got it all figured out - whiloe you continue to ignore every actual observation in the entire solar system - and right in froont of your nose - you just couldn't see or detect it a few years ago. How can we say with any authority there are not energies we never encountered, and possibly can't even detect, influencing the delecate balance of our climate and maybe more, like the magnetic field? If you discover something just because you started looking, that thing was probably happening all along. Now NASA knew something was up, knew enough energy was being generated to disrupt satelites, probes, etc. - you think it's ok to dismiss them. He reasoned that this turbulence is caused by an external injection of energy into the planets’ atmospheres: to wit, an interstellar energy cloud which the leading edge of the Solar System has now entered. If we are to assume that some planets do not have seasonal variations, we need to have some serious basis for that, grounded in physics. have damaged our ecosystems - just a debate over the degree to which we have damaged things. Controlling them is not a bad thing. ESA's missions to Venus, Mars and Saturn's moon Titan will soon provide useful information to understand how our own planet's climate is regulated. And yet the earth has been undergoing heating for the last 25,000 years with no help from man at all. [TD] Your comment is way off topic. The Earth's climate seems to be changing much more quickly than it used to do. But talk to me in 10 years about how man is heating up the earth, bet you'll be wearing long johns and claiming global warming did it. Consequently, I have responded on a more appropriate thread. We are constantly moving into areas of space we have never inhabited before. The solar wind is nothing new. And there is the (relatively small) problem that the solar system would need to travel at well over 100 times the speed of light. You all talk of irradiance as if it is the sole factor. The connection you form is of the nature of a leap of faith. That makes the rate of temperature increase slow down. The effect of the solar wind on the magnetosphere has been known since at least 1965. Offline PDF Version  |  Jupiter: the notion that Jupiter is warming is actually based on predictions, since no warming has actually been observed. And even when told of two newlt discovered sources of energy never added to any clculation - you think it's ok to dismiss them. There is currently no evidence to support claims that Mars is warming at all. Just as those connections exist between the planet and moon - they exist between the sun and the planets. What is your theory anyway? Strawman arugments also have no place. The later, at least, is true. Please comment on an appropriate thread, such as the rebuttal to "It's a Natural Cycle." Not more theory and arguments. Falsified every textbook you had on the subject - so of course it is unimportant to you, you still use them. Say what you think rather than declaring what you think other people think. If you wish to discuss whether global warming has continued over the recent decade+ period, go to this thread where they explain why you are very, very wrong: Global warming since 1997 more than twice as fast as previously estimated, new study shows. Really? Amazon配送商品ならPrinciples of Planetary Climateが通常配送無料。更にAmazonならポイント還元本が多数。Pierrehumbert, Raymond T.作品ほか、お急ぎ便対象商品は当日お届けも可能。 However, these atmospheric gases trap some of the outgoing energy, and it is retained as heat. Mars and Jupiter are not warming, and anyway the sun has recently been cooling slightly. The oven is still warmer than the brisket, so of course the brisket continues to warm toward that temperature of 325. You post has numerous instance where you making such statement. Even with the sun reducing its output, the general increase in temperature as we approach our fiery galactic center could easily counter the decrease in output by the sun. Eventually you could, I guess, but the barrage of stones required would be quite interesting. For instance, the reason given for solar activity not causing global warming is that solar activity has retreated ever so slightly (while still being at an atypically much higher rate over an extended period of time). Frankly, you most recent post adds nothing new to the discussion, illustrating only your determination to shut your eyes to counter evidence with regard to your pet theory. More importantly, it predicted that "The next sunspot cycle will be 30% to 50% stronger than the previous one", that "the first sunspots of the next cycle appear in late 2006 or 2007--and Solar Max to be underway by 2010 or 2011", and that the next solar maximum "could produce a burst of solar activity second only to the historic Solar Max of 1958". Mostly because as they admitted - they were not looking. I approach all of this in fairly broad strokes. Thanks for your understanding and compliance in this matter. and your link is actually mashing four different phenomenon and three separate issues rolled into the one account. In this analogy, what is typical for the brisket is the 175 degrees worth of heat radiation from the oven. Most worrisome is what will happen to the permafrost’s huge store of long-frozen carbon that In that article, he repeatedly refers to his book, Apocalypse 2012: An Investigation into Civilization’s End, which is described in his bio: "Apocalypse 2012 is a personal exploration of the strange coincidence that both ancient Mayan prophecy and contemporary solar physics indicate that the year 2012 will be uniquely pivotal, perhaps catastrophic. Obvisously the intensity of the suns output effects deminish over distance(the distance squared is still just a relationship to distance, this is much more relevant for gravity)...how would this NOT be the case? The sun is relatively calm compared to other stars. On Earth, things differ because increased temperatures increase absolute humidity, and hence the energy supply for storms - but that mechanism is not available on Venus. That's how it works. Jacksan @43 is the latest in a long line of people endorsing the Anthing But CO2 (ABC) theory of climate change. ScientiFix Can bacteria ‘migrate’ to other planets & survive? IBEX has been directly sampling neutral helium atoms from the interstellar cloud as part of its mission to map the boundary between the solar system and the rest of the galaxy. It should be unnecessary to say that any significant climate changes related to the galaxy (if there are any) happens on a much, much larger time scale than a century or so! You make no logical case at all against that idea, you don't even try and just hand wave. We can measure the various activities of the sun pretty accurately from here on Earth, or from orbit above it, so it is hard to ignore the discrepancy between the facts and the sceptical argument that the sun is causing the rise in temperatures. However, man-made emissions have caused carbon dioxide concentrations here to increase by about 30% since pre-industrial times. 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